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The Clansmoff ( Gast )
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22.08.2005 01:17
Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Vielleicht habens ja schon einige mitbekommen. Beim letzten Ozzfest-Gig mit Maiden (20.8.05) gab es einen äußerst unangenehmen Zwischenfall. Anhängend den Artikel von Blabbermouth.net
Ich persönlich bin ziemlich angepisst, so eine Respektlosigkeit einer Band und vor allem den zahlenden Fans gegenüber - welche Streitigkeiten Sharon und Bruce auch immer vorher gehabt haben mögen - ist mir komplett unverständlich.

Hier auch der Link zu einer Online-Petition an/gegen Mrs. Osbourne: http://www.petitiononline.com/madd17ya/

"BLABBERMOUTH.NET has received a number of e-mails regarding last night's (August 20) Ozzfest concert in Devore (near San Bernardino), California, which reportedly included an on-stage appearance following IRON MAIDEN's set by Sharon Osbourne during which she called MAIDEN vocalist Bruce Dickinson a "prick." The following report was submitted by David Priest, editor-in-chief of On Track Magazine:

"Last night's [August 20] headlining performance of IRON MAIDEN at Ozzfest in San Bernardino, CA rendered some interesting, if not disturbing, results. Although MAIDEN played one hell of a show, they were under attack from the moment they began their set. From the time they hit the stage, they suffered power loss on at least three occasions and they were continuously pelted with ice, bottle caps, and eggs, among other things. Vocalist Bruce Dickinson was even spit on by one attendee. He seemed to believe these occurrences were not by accident and insinuated that they had been planned from the beginning of the night [Download MP3 files of Bruce's on-stage rants at last night's Ozzfest: Bruce#1, Bruce#2]. He also encouraged the other audience members to break the arm of anyone that they saw throwing things their way. Upon concluding their performance, the emcee for the evening began to chant Ozzy, Ozzy while Bruce was still speaking. Bruce retaliated by chanting MAIDEN. After he left the stage, Sharon Osbourne took over the mic and informed the crowd that they absolutely loved IRON MAIDEN and their crew and stated that they were all wonderful but that their singer Bruce Dickinson was a prick and had disrespected Ozzfest since they began their stint with the touring summer festival [Download MP3 file of Sharon's anti-Bruce rant at this location]. This, of course, came as a shock to those of us in attendance and the there was ample confusion and speculation from audience members there after. As previously announced, last night's show marked the final performance of IRON MAIDEN on this year's Ozzfest. VELVET REVOLVER will be taking over their slot on the last remaining dates."

Here are a few more eyewitness accounts, as submitted by BLABBERMOUTH.NET readers:

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"Tonight was the last show of IRON MAIDEN's leg of the Ozzfest. Unfortunately the rest of the tour will have that spot filled by VELVET REVOLVER. There has been some sniping and such going on during this tour between Ozzy's camp and Bruce Dickinson, but that had been kept for the most part away from the fans it appears. So, IRON MAIDEN is playing a 55-minute set (though they've played full shows on the nights SABBATH cancelled on this tour because Ozzy can't to back to back nights.)

"MAIDEN is about to come on and right before a voice on the PA starts chanting 'Ozzy, Ozzy.' MAIDEN comes on and starts getting pelted with eggs from one area of the pit. Some dude has three dozen eggs. Bruce calls this out quickly. Next, during 'The Trooper', where Bruce waves a large British flag, some big dude painted red walks out from backstage with an American flag and on his back painted 'Don't f(#$ with Ozzy).' Tackled, he appeared off stage again. Then after Bruce declared 'You'll never hear MAIDEN on U.S. radio, MTV and certainly never see them in a reality show,' he says they will play 60 minutes, not 55. So, during two of their most popular songs (note: they are only playing songs from the first four albums, so 40,000 metalheads and idiots are going nuts), their PA and power goes off. Unbelievable, they handled it fine as almost if they expected it. They then do an encore and Bruce says something about the 'We the People' and nobody is going to stop them, not eggs, a guy spitting on them (until Bruce had him tossed) or a PA hoax and they play two more songs. Then they finish and are bowing and saying goodnight and the Ozzy voice comes on to chant, Bruce tries to change it to MAIDEN chant and then says, 'Are you as sick of this BS 'cause we are.' And they walk off.

"THEN: Sharon [Osbourne] comes on stage and asks for everyone’s attention and half ass praises and thanks IRON MAIDEN but say the singer Bruce is a prick and has been slagging the tour. 40,000 are stunned and start to boo and throw stuff, but most were stunned by the surreal moment. SABBATH then came out and did a good set like last year's with a much improved, yet hoarse, Ozzy. They started doing medleys thought, not good. But the rest, eesh."

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"ROB ZOMBIE was cool, SHADOWS FALL and MUDVAYNE are better live than on CD, SLIPKNOT aren't really my kind of band but they put on an entertaining stage show...lots of strange shit going on.

"MAIDEN hit the stage to thundering applause, despite the fact that they are the ONLY mainstage band NOT to be introduced by some guy that comes on stage...and despite the fact that the idiot is screaming 'Ozzy... Ozzy... Ozzy' as MAIDEN's intro tape ('Doctor Doctor') is playing.

"Some prick is throwing eggs up on the stage. It doesn't occur to me till later, but this person HAD to be planted in the audience, because there is NO WAY any fan could have snuck in 36 fucking eggs. They patted us down so good, I felt like asking for a cigarette afterwards.

"Bruce is in fine rant form (got 5 or so tonight...LOL), and mentions how MAIDEN will never be on the radio, or MTV...or reality TV shows. He also mentions that they're supposed to do a shortened 55-minute set tonight, but just like someone sang that they can't drive 55, they can't PLAY 55....they're going to play their full show.

"Maybe 30 seconds or so before 'Phantom of the Opera' is to end, the PA cuts out. A minute or two later, it's back on an they go into 'Run to the Hills'. This happens again 2-3 times the rest of the night. Once near the end of 'Hallowed be thy Name', and the crowd is so into it, we all decide to help MAIDEN finish the song anyway. We sang the rest of it for them, as we could just barely hear their stage monitors going.

"In spite of all the problems with the planted egg thrower, the 'Ozzy... Ozzy...' asshole, and someone pulling the fucking PA plug, the band are on FIRE, and are determined to give us the best show possible. There was no big Eddie during the song IRON MAIDEN, just the walk-on Eddie. Is this how it was at the other Ozzfest shows?

"MAIDEN come back out for their encore, and Bruce says that the band is back out there for one reason, and one reason only...after all the bullshit...it for us...the fans. They put on a fucking killer encore, and the crowd was fucking totally into it.

"MAIDEN are on stage still, and taking their bows...and this cocksucker starts the 'Ozzy... Ozzy... Ozzy...' shit through the PA system again. Well, almost IMMEDIATELY, seemingly the entire crowd starts chanting 'MAIDEN... MAIDEN... MAIDEN...' over the guy... over and over... and we drowned that motherfucker out! Bruce was up there like an orchestra conductor, waving his arms as we chanted 'MAIDEN... MAIDEN!'

"The band aren't off the stage 10 seconds, when that cunt Sharon Osbourne comes out and tells us she needs us quiet just for a moment. She proceeds to tell us how they love IRON MAIDEN and think they're cool...but then says that Bruce Dickinson is a real prick, and has been disrespecting Ozzfest from day one. That's all I heard out of the bitch, 'cause we all immediately went back into 'MAIDEN... MAIDEN... MAIDEN!" and she was completely drowned out after that.

"I looked at my brother and said 'Let's get the fuck outta here,' and he nodded too. All the way out, we chanted 'MAIDEN... MAIDEN' ...and 'Bruce... Bruce...' ...and the crowd all along, chanted right with us.

"Walking out the gates, we quickly noticed that we were FAR from alone...as a large mass of people were leaving right with us. Common statements made by others were, 'Fucking bitch, Sharon...fuck her.' I think she overestimated her popularity...LOL. All she ended up doing was thinning out the crowd of a large LARGE number of MAIDEN fans. Good fucking riddance, too!

"It was best that we left anyway....since no band should ever go on after MAIDEN. I will never....NEVER spend another fucking cent on ANYTHING Ozzy does, unless he ever decides to stop being led around by the nose, by that fucking bitch, Sharon.

"All that being said....I'll repeat that in SPITE of all that went on, MAIDEN put on a great fucking show, with what they had to deal with...and the crowd returned the love...and then some."

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"* IRON MAIDEN got pummeled with eggs on the opening of 'Murders In The Rue Morgue'

* Second song 'The Trooper', someone (looked like that douche 'Big Dave') on stage and mocked Bruce with an American flag.....

* MAIDEN's PA and amps were shut off four or five times during songs......

* Ozzfest apparently tried to cut MAIDEN's set length.....

* Someone sounding alot like that Dave person who introduced BLACK LABEL SOCIETY was chanting 'Ozzy, Ozzy...' ( a pre-recorded loop, maybe?) while MAIDEN were still on stage... Needless to say, the crowd is getting pissed by now.....

"Bruce was a total hero — a pro, said what he needed to say and MAIDEN still did their set and encore... Sharon then came out for what appeared to be damage control, thanking MAIDEN and the crew — and then said, 'but their singer Bruce Dickinson is a prick, he has insulted Ozzfest since he got here...' or something to that affect. The statement she made seemed to be condoning the poor treatment of MAIDEN.....

"I as a fan have gained MUCHO respect for Bruce Dickinson and lost respect for the Ozz Inc. camp."

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"At the final night of their Ozzfest stint at Hyundai Pavillion in Devore, California, IRON MAIDEN were the victim of Sharon Osbourne's megalomania. Firstly, before they went on, Big Dave (or whatever they call the retarded streak of piss hanger-on who introduces Ozzy and BLACK LABEL SOCIETY for a living) tried to get an 'Ozzy' chant just before MAIDEN walked onstage. Then they had 35 eggs and bottles, which were 'planted' in the mosh pit just before showtime, which were then thrown at Bruce and the boys. Then when playing 'The Trooper' at the part when Bruce runs onstage dressed in military attire waving the British flag, 'Big Dave' ran on in a civil war outfit (kinda) and waving a huge U.S. flag. He had to be removed from the stage and then ran around the venue like a five-year-old schoolgirl. Next up was the fact that MAIDEN's sound was cut totally about five times mid-song and at crucial moments, complete power failure forcing them to abandon the songs.

"Bruce was noticeably pissed about this and made a comment about being a true rock band and not a reality show band. Then he let it be known that the power cuts were deliberate sabotage as were the eggs. As MAIDEN finished the set and were taking bows, 'Big Wad Dave' once again starts the 'Ozzy' chants, which the crowd drowned out with MAIDEN chants. Then to top it off, Sharon walks onstage and says, and I quote, 'Look, I really love IRON MAIDEN but I have to tell you their lead singer Bruce Dickinson is a prick.' The crowd went wild with booing and chants and Sharon continued, 'We have done so much for them, let me explain myself.' She was drowned out in a sea of boo's and left the stage.

"It was a debacle and embarrassing and the most unprofessional thing I have ever seen in my 20 years of going to rock shows. To actually of cut the power to the band and throw projectiles at the band in order to ruin their set was truly evil and dangerous and disrespectful to the thousands of fans who were there purely to MAIDEN. Sharon Osbourne is and evil cunt, I only hope she gets another batch of cancer after what she did tonight."

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From IRON MAIDEN's official message board:

"About 10 minutes before MAIDEN came on, I was in the center of the pit a few feet from the front railing when a guy comes barging in from the right escorting 4 or 5 people. At first, I tell him to F-off because I thought he was trying to take my spot, but he said he worked for Ozzfest and showed me his passes. He also told me that Ozzy's daughter was with the entourage he brought with him. There were a few girls with him and one of them looked a little like Kelly Osbourne, but I couldn't tell for sure because all of them were wearing bandanas over their noses and mouths. After I heard her speak, I was pretty sure. At that point, I tapped her on her arm and said, 'I really liked you on the show. You were great,' to which she responded, 'Thank you.' There was no doubt at that point. The bodyguard who came with them starting getting chumy with us because he needed a few of us to help him protect the girls from the moshing that would start when MAIDEN came on. I saw the girls passing eggs, and I said, 'What's that for?' The bodyguard said something to the effect, 'You'll see. Something big is going down. You'll hear about it everywhere after tonight. It's all because Bruce Dickinson made some comments in Detroit dissing the 'Osbournes' reality TV show.' He also said that there were about 60 people in the pit who were going to participate in the mayhem. Most of them were wearing the same Ozzfest shirts. Before MAIDEN came on, they all started chanting, 'Ozzy, Ozzy...' I actually saw Bruce off to the left of the stage before they came on. His mike was on and he said something like, 'What the fuck?' — probably in response to the 'Ozzy' chanting.

"When MAIDEN came on, eggs started flying and all these guys were flipping off the band. Nicko had to stop after one song to clean his set. Bruce was obviously very pissed. Thank God they continued their set. At one point, someone through a cup of corn with milk or something. It got all over Bruce, me, and about a dozen other people. Then the technical problems started. The sound went out on about three songs — 'Phantom of the Opera', 'Hallowed be thy Name', and one other one I can't remember. I could not believe what was going on. I was furious because I didn't want the guys in MAIDEN to think badly of the fans who love them. I do think that Bruce understood because the band continued to play the full set, and Bruce made comments to distinguish the fans there from the guys throwing stuff. Towards the end of the set, Bruce started yelling at a guy in the pit to my left about 10 feet. Bruce said he saw him throwing stuff and wanted the fucker out. It took a long time for security to get him out. The reason why is that one guy from Kelly Osbourne's entourage was holding down the guy security was trying to take out. Eventually security pulled both of them out. After MAIDEN's set, it was obvious that Sharon Osbourne was in on it, because she came out to say that 'Bruce Dickinson is a prick.'

"Needless to say, it was insane. I was really pissed that MAIDEN got treated this way. I wanted to enjoy their set and instead got drama from egg throwing and songs cut short by someone pulling the power. Bruce was obviously pissed and the rest of the band seemed a little irritated. It showed in their playing too because some of the songs were sloppy, but of course you couldn't blame them given the situation.""


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22.08.2005 01:46
#2 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Also ich hab versucht mir des durchzulesen, aber da bin ich teilweise mit meinem Englisch echt überfordert und versteh nicht wirklich alles. (Und ich dachte mein Englisch is halbwegs ok ^^) Also was ich mitbekommen hab wurden Maiden die ganze Zeit lang mit Gegenständnen beschmissen. Am Schluss halt sagt Sharon Bruce sei ein W******. Also recht verstanden was da jetzt wirklich war und was die Hintergründe waren hab ich nicht. Kann mir vielleicht jemand helfen?

EDIT:
Ok, habs nochmal durchgekauft und jetzt blick ich die Sache halbwegs. Ist schon heftig. Die Osbournes sind doch sowieso reif für die Klappsmühle, und Ozzy (der einstige Metal Gott) weiß ohnehin nicht mehr was er tut und ist völlig debil.



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The Clansmoff ( Gast )
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22.08.2005 04:11
#3 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Ok, doch nochmal eine kurze Zusammenfassung.
Offenbar gab es schon im Vorfeld Zoff zwischen Bruce und Sharon, unter anderem hatte Bruce einige Andeutungen auf Reality-Shows und Nostalgie-Reunions ohne neue Alben und ähnliches gemacht, allerdings ohne Sabbath oder Ozzy namentlich zu erwähnen.

Als nun beim Ozzfest Maiden die Bühne betraten sind einige Dinge geschehen:
Irgendso ein Clown fand es lustig über den PA ständig "ozzy, ozzy" zu schreien.
Auf wundersame Weise ist es einigen Leuten in den ersten Reihen gelungen mehrere dutzend Eier einzuschleusen, trotz der Sicherheitskontrollen (die ja in den USA noch wesentlich strenger sind als hierzulande). Einige haben wohl gesehen, daß Sharon mit dabei war, auf jeden Fall muß sowas mit Hilfe von Veranstalterseite organisiert gewesen sein. Während der ersten paar Songs flogen dann Eier und wohl auch diverse andere Gegenstände auf die Bühne, Nicko mußte zB zwischen den Songs Pause machen um seinen Arbeitsplatz wieder sauber zu kriegen.
Während einiger (mindestens drei) Songs, Phantom... und Hallowed... gehörten dazu, fiel dann "zufällig" der Sound aus und Maiden waren nur noch über die eigenen Monitorsysteme kaum zu hören. Angeblich klang das nicht nach "wegen Störung ausgefallen", weil keine Störgeräusche oder Ähnliches, sondern eben schlicht abgedreht.
Außerdem kam beim Trooper noch der Ansagehansel auf die Bühne, schwang eine US-Flagge und mußte entfernt werden.
Vor der Zugabe dann schließlich hat Bruce das ganze nochmal kommentiert. "Das hier ist die britische Flagge, und diese Farben laufen nicht davon!" und ähnliches, und daß die Band, trotz dieser "zufälligen" Störungen aus genau einem Grund noch auf der Bühne ist: Niemand stellt sich zwischen Maiden und ihr Publikum.
Nach der Zugabe, Maiden verbeugen sich gerade, kommt mal wieder "ozzy, ozzy" über den PA, was aber vom Publikum niedergeschrien wird.
Maiden gehen ab.
Sharon kommt auf die Bühne, erzählt wie toll sie Maiden und deren Crew findet, aber ihr Sänger, Bruce Dickinson, sei ein Arschloch (man vergebe mir die Wortwahl, ich zitiere) und habe von Anfang an nicht hinter dem Ozzfest gestanden.
Sie wird formgerecht niedergebrüllt und ausgebuht, kaum die Reaktion die sie erwartet hatte nehme ich an.

Eine Anzahl Maiden-Fans verlassen daraufhin vor Sabbath das Gelände, laut den Berichten oben wohl einige Tausend.

Soviel zu der Geschichte, zumindest das was ich jetzt noch von den Beiträgen in Erinnerung habe, hatte keine Lust das alles nochmal zu lesen.
Aber das Ganze scheint sicher zu stimmen, ist im englischsprachigen Maidenforum von einer Menge Leuten bestätigt worden.

Ich kann nur nochmal sagen, daß ich so eine Art und Weise für unter aller Sau halte, um meinetwillen könnte Mrs. Osbourne gerne vors erstbeste Auto laufen.
Daß Ozzy damit was zu tun hatte glaube ich kaum, zum einen versteht er sich ja eigentlich ganz gut mit Bruce, oder hat mal, zum anderen hat er davon wahrscheinlich nichtmal was mitbekommen.

Post Scriptum: Ach ja, mittlerweile wurden übrigens auf der Ozzfest-Page die live-Bilder von Bruce entfernt. (Ja, vorher waren welche da)
Wie gesagt, wer ähnlich sauer ist wie ich, der trage sich ruhig in die Petition ein.

Fuck Sharon, UP THE IRONS!

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22.08.2005 07:25
#4 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Das ist ja wohl der Hammer! Was fällt dieser Göre eigentlich ein??? Das ist ja Sabotage. Die sollte sich mal lieber
ihren debilen Vater anschauen bevor sie irgendwas über Bruce Dickinson zu lästern hat.

Und überhaupt, die Bühne mit Eiern zu bewerfen und damit eine Band zu attackieren die nur professionell ihr Set spielen will... Maiden sollte sich das nächste Mal überlegen ob sie ein Tourpackage in den Staaten spielt. In Europa wäre das nicht passiert. Erst kriegt Smith was vorn Kopp geworfen dann wird Maiden mit Eiern beschmißen und die ganze Show sabotiert und Bruce Dickinson noch übel beleidigt.

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22.08.2005 11:55
#5 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Sharon ist doch seine Frau und nicht seine Tochter.
Na jedenfalls finde ich es stark von Bruce, dass er einfach weitergemacht hat und richtig reagiert hat. So manch andere Band wäre einfach von der Bühne gegangen!



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22.08.2005 13:15
#6 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

ziehen wir eine positive Hoffnung daraus: könnte in Zukunft einige Shows weniger für die usa bedeuten, dafür mehr für Europa (also BRD).



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22.08.2005 13:39
#7 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

@ thunder - ich glaube drifter spielt auf sharons vater an... der muss auhc irgendwas am kopp haben wie man so hört...

naja jedenfalls ist das ein ganz großes stück heftigkeit...ich meine - eier, ausfall, etc. das muss ja wohl von hintermänner bei den veranstaltern oder sollte ich sagen FRAU? eingefädelt worden sein...also echt unter aller sau...



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22.08.2005 13:54
#8 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Ich würde nun auch nicht den Amis die Schuld geben wenn eine ausgetickte englische Oma nur noch lauter $$$$$$ vor der Bühne stehen sieht und ihr alles andere egal ist.

Die Fans haben Maiden schließlich unterstützt.
Aber Maiden sollten sich nie wieder auf eine not-Headliner Tour einlassen...


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22.08.2005 14:04
#9 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

ich bin sprachlos...einfach unglaublich...


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22.08.2005 14:29
#10 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Und es wird immer besser: das offizielle Statement seitens Ozzfest (also Sharon):
"From Ozzfest.com:

August 21, 2005
LAST SHOW FOR MAIDEN

Iron Maiden were chosen for the Ozzfest tour because the Ozzfest committee felt they were a good band, plus the fact that they had not done shows in the U.S. for some time. From day one, Bruce Dickinson started berating Ozzy and belittling the Ozzfest audience. He stated he"didn’t need a reality show to give him credibility"; "we're not just some f*cking reunion band"; and continuously complained about the sound system, saying that when he comes back to America he’ll have a better one. I understand he hasn’t toured in the U.S.in these size venues in a while and no longer understands the political structure of things. Out of 200-plus bands over the last 10 years, he has been the only person who hasn’t had the Ozzfest spirit. He thought he was at a battle of the bands, always making other comments about the other artists.

Might I say, the rest of the band are gentlemen and have a great professional attitude. The crew are absolutely great. But how sad it was, after 10 years, that this little man tried to ruin it for everyone. The bands of Ozzfest don’t even look at Ozzfest as touring, but as its heavy metal summer camp. Bruce is in fact a jealous prick and very envious. None of his tirades were directed at Sabbath, only Ozzy. Steve Harris [Iron Maiden's bassist] personally came to Ozzy in San Bernardino and apologized for Bruce’s behavior this summer, stating that he and the rest of the band were "embarrassed" by their own singer.
It also offended me every night how he took out the English flag in America. There are American boys going to war alongside the English boys every day. How dare he forget the American troops on their home turf. He has had no respect for the American audience he has been playing for, stating in an interview, "When you do the 'hits' tour here [in the U.S.], the audience is smug, and there's a sense of self-satisfaction, like, 'We got what we wanted…I'm looking at an audience that is self-satisfied and happy and fat, and getting what it wants and isn't prepared to get off its ass.."

Before there was Samson there was SABBATH!

Ozzfest 2005 continues on with our summer of fun with the addition of Velvet Revolver. This is where the fun begins….."

Dazu gleich ein paar Bemerkungen:
-Bruce meinte mit seinen Äußerungen zu den selbstzufriedenen Amis im Publikum jene Leute, die durch diverse Beziehungen, Abos oder ähnliches Sitze in der ersten Reihe hatten, sich aber für den gig an sich gar nicht interessierten und so die Hardcore-Fans nach hinten verbannten. Daß einen dieses Volk, das nur da ist weil es zu irgendeinem all-inclusive package gehört als Frontmann ordentlich aufregen kann, kann ich absolut nachvollziehen.
-Bruces Bemerkungen zur Reality-Show "the osbournes" sowie zu Black Sabbath sind vielleicht nicht grade freundlich, stimmen aber, und man wird wohl noch seine eigene Meinung kundgeben dürfen? Ach nein, Sharon Osbourne ist ja eine Diktatorin.
-Bruce hat nicht den Ozzfest-"spirit"? Aber die Bands auf Kosten der Fans zu sabotieren, das ist euer "spirit"? Dann erstickt doch bitte in eurem "spirit", aber laßt die Umwelt damit zufrieden.
-Die Bemerkung zur britischen Flagge ist einfach nur dumm. Sie ist keine Beleidigung für einen Deutschen, einen Franzosen, einen Brazilianer oder eben einen US-Amerikaner. Falls es Frau Osbourne noch nicht aufgefallen ist, die Flagge gehört zu "The Trooper", und dieser Song beschäftigt sich mit dem Crimean War, (Krim-Krieg), bei dem die USA nicht im Geringsten beteiligt waren. Ich habe noch nie gehört, daß sich ein Russe daran stört, also warum sollte es ein US-Amerikaner? Hallo Leute, die USA waren nicht schon immer "Weltpolizei".


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22.08.2005 14:58
#11 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

das was da vorgefallen ist ist die größte frechheit die ich jeh gehört habe...das ist einfach unterste schublade und kann einfach nur in den usa passieren..einfach unprofesionell ... ich werd das nun nicht noch länger kommentieren...ich würde nur maiden raten nie wieder in den ****** staaten zu spieln..weil die amis das nicht verdient haben..sorry aber das ist echt erbärmlich
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22.08.2005 15:00
#12 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Die Probleme der Frau und ich hätte keine!
Untenstehendes Schreiben stammt von einem der Eierwerfer, der ja wohl auch recht "merkwürdige" Probleme hat.
Zitat:

"Hello Bruce,

You bitch you talk smack on stage that you are going to kick my ass and then what? You pointed me out tonight and had you little bitch fans try to throw down on me!!! I beat them down like I want to beat your ass down!!! You said fear a law suite and that is why you could not step up and kick my ass. Well dude you picked the right Mother Fucker On This One!!!!! No fear of Law suite, I love to fight and I can arrange for it to be done in an open forum.
Any time you want I have the forum that wont get you in any trouble, it’s called KING OF THE CAGE.
They have a fight set for September 23rd and I am sure we can get on the card. Don’t talk Shit if you can’t or won’t back it up.
The ass kicking I gave to you bitch’s in the crowd is just a showing of what I will do to you!!!!

Don’t say it if you can’t or won’t back it up!!!!

http://WWW.KINGOFTHECAGE.COM


You are my new Bitch.


Desert Dawg"
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22.08.2005 15:07
#13 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

@ ego: Bitte, nicht böse gemeint,aber jetzt sortier mal die Fakten richtig. Was in den USA sch***e ist, das sind die Veranstalter, die Promoter, eine Hand voll Leute die nicht in die ersten Reihen gehören und die Osbournes. Und ein paar andere Sachen und Leute, die aber mit Maiden nichts zu tun haben.

Maiden hatten bei dem Vorfall die volle Unterstützung ihrer US-amerikanischen Fans.

Es gibt konzerttechnisch da drüben auch abseits vom Ozzfest einige Probleme die man mal anpacken müßte, aber nicht die Fans bestrafen für etwas was ganz andere Leute zu verantworten haben.

Steve selbst hat bereits geäußert, daß sie sich wegen den Problemen mit den Veranstaltern in den USA was überlegen müssen.
Aber nicht immer so stereotyp gegen alle Amis und unsere Mit-Fans aus den USA wettern, das hilft wirklich keinem weiter.

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22.08.2005 15:10
#14 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

ja lol trotzdem sollen sie da nicht spielen wenn dir organisatorisch nix hinbekommen..sowas ist doch nicht normal????da ist maiden doch nicht sicher..
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22.08.2005 21:04
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http://www.petitiononline.com/madd17ya/petition-sign.html? <- hier könnt ihr euch gegen sharon osbourne einschreiben :)
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23.08.2005 11:17
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OZZFEST, Hang Your Head In Shame: The Backstage Perspective - Aug. 22, 2005
The manager of a well-known heavy metal band (*NOT* IRON MAIDEN) who attended this past weekend's Ozzfest show at the Hyundai Pavillion in Devore, California has submitted the following first-hand account of the evening that will surely go down as one of the most shameful moments in recent rock history (NOTE: at his request, the author's identity is being protected by BLABBERMOUTH.NET):

"Saturday night's Ozzfest at the Hyundai Pavillion near Los Angeles was a debacle on so many levels, I am still in shock as I write this. As a fan of many of the bands [Saturday] night, one can only hope this was an isolated incident, but sadly, it most likely wasn't. As many of you have heard already, co-headliners and metal legends IRON MAIDEN were pelted with eggs, bottle caps, beer cups, spit on, had people from the Ozzfest camp talking over the PA during their set, had 'Eddie' delayed from his onstage entrance, had members of the [BLACK LABEL SOCIETY] entourage rush the stage with American flags, and had the PA intentionally turned off over 6 times, all by the OSBOURNE CAMP.

"While it's still unclear as to the exact reasons why the terrorizing started (rumors abounded as to why, with everything from Bruce calling out Ozzy in the U.K. rock magazine Kerrang! on the widely known fact that Ozzy uses a teleprompter, to various vague references said on stage about a 'reality show' at an Ozzfest stop in Detroit), one thing was very clear: The whole thing stunk, and left me, and nearly all of the 40,000+ heavy metal fans in attendance angered and disappointed. Not that behind the scenes bickering or magazine trash talking is anything new to rock fans, but the shocking lack of professionalism at one of the largest stops in North America in front of 40,000 + spectators, at the hand of the Osbournes was nothing short of disgusting.

"It all began early in the afternoon, when many side stage bands were openly approached in clear view of everyone backstage by Sharon and Kelly Osbourne to 'join them in throwing eggs at IRON MAIDEN this evening.' All the bands were encouraged to rally the other side stage bands to do so. Members and/or friends of the hardcore band BURY YOUR DEAD were seen actively trying to encourage other side stage bands to 'join in the fun.' Thankfully, many side stage bands angrily declined.

"Later that evening, as IRON MAIDEN came on stage, their intro was interrupted by [BLACK LABEL SOCIETY] hanger-on and biker wannabe Big Dave, who was at the soundboard loudly chanting 'Ozzy, Ozzy' over the PA. MAIDEN opened their set and the entire band was pelted from the front row with eggs, beer, beer cups, spit, and various other objects by an Ozzfest-credentialed, bandana-wearing, Osbourne entourage. IRON MAIDEN, ever the professionals, continued through their set, and by the time they launched into their second song, 'The Trooper', Bruce changed into a civil war-era, red coat and began waving a Union Jack — British flag. Then, someone in, or associated with, BLACK LABEL SOCIETY tried to rush the stage waving and American Flag with the words 'Don't fuck with Ozzy' scrawled across his bare chest. He was tackled and beaten by MAIDEN crew and promptly thrown off stage.

"As 'The Trooper' ended, frontman Bruce Dickinson, with characteristic spunk, launched into a scathing attack on the people terrorizing his band, calling them 'a sorry excuse for an Ozzy Osbourne fan,' and wondering aloud how, 'three dozen eggs could get snuck into the front row of Ozzfest by people with Ozzfest laminates?' Though he never named names, all in attendance could understand who he was referring to. Nicko McBrain ran up to the front asking Bruce to hold on while he cleaned egg off his drums. He then stated the the next song wouldn't be heard on 'Your local cocksucking corporate radio station, wouldn't be seen on MTV anymore, and sure as hell wouldn't be played on a fucking reality TV show,' met by a huge roar from the crowd.

"During the song 'Hallowed Be Thy Name', Bruce, after only the first two lines, stopped singing and ran to the front row, firing back at his terrorizers, saying 'That asswipe right there, with the curly hair, the fucking glasses, and Ozzfest laminate throw his fucking ass out of here right now. It's gonna take more than eggs to stop IRON MAIDEN, and if it wasn't for a lawsuit, I'd rip your fucking head off right now, you piece of shit!!!!' He had the various attackers ejected and continued with a blistering version of the song until right before the big sing long at the end, the PA was INTENTIONALLY cut off. When it came back, Bruce launched into another scathing attack saying that they were supposed to play a shorter set than normal today, and only play 55 minutes, but IRON MAIDEN can't drive 55, or play 55, and were going to play our whole fucking set tonight.

"The band endured six more 'PA cuts,' including having the power to their amps turned off at one point. When the PA would come back on, they would simply launch into the next IRON MAIDEN classic, never missing a beat. Frankly, with every PA cut, the band just got meaner and meaner, playing each new song with an anger and a fire that was at times, simply astonishing to watch. Bruce began the introduction to IRON MAIDEN with a speech about 'Your constitution has something about 'We The People.' Well let me tell you, the only reason we are up here tolerating this bullshit, is because of you people. You have been amazing Glen Helen, and there are A LOT of IRON MAIDEN fans here tonight,' eliciting a huge roar from the crowd. He continued, 'It's gonna take more than eggs to stop IRON MAIDEN, NOTHING is going to come between us and our fans, and it will be death before dishonor, this is 'Iron fucking Maiden',' which was greeted by a thunderous applause. During 'Iron Maiden', longtime MAIDEN mascot Eddie was purposely delayed from making his entrance, making a brief appearance at the end, and one could only wonder as to how. As the band closed there set with a furious version of 'Sanctuary', the PA was again cut only to have Big Dave repeatedly chant 'Ozzy' over the PA, while the band tried to say goodbye to their fans. The now-furious crowd angrily drowned him out with chants of 'MAIDEN, MAIDEN.'

"Then, not 10 seconds after MAIDEN left the stage, Sharon Osbourne walked on stage and predictably, tried to give MAIDEN some fake, half-hearted praise about how they'd like to 'thank IRON MAIDEN,' and what a wonderful band IRON MAIDEN are, and how their crew were 'fantastic,' then sneering, 'But Bruce Dickinson is a prick.' The entire crowd, now fed up with the entire affair, began loudly booing her, pelting her with beer cups, and yelling 'bitch.' She tried to carry on, adding that 'Bruce had disrespected Ozzfest,' only to be drowned out by an ocean of boos, and soaked with beer. She slammed the microphone down and stormed off stage. Many in the crowd, fed up with what they had just witnessed, especially considering that many had come solely for MAIDEN, and paid upwards of $150 to do so, left in droves. SABBATH played to maybe half the audience that was there prior, and seemed stagnate compared to the band preceding them. As a huge fan of SABBATH, I honestly couldn't stand to watch them.

"I've seen IRON MAIDEN probably 10 times in my life, and frankly this was the very best IRON MAIDEN show I've had the pleasure of witnessing. You DON'T want to fuck with IRON MAIDEN. The more the Osbournes tried to fuck with them, the better they got! IRON MAIDEN was on fucking overdrive! Considering the amount of terrorizing and intimidation that IRON MAIDEN had to deal with at the hands of the Osbournes and the other side stage and main stage bands participating, they were the consummate professionals. They had the crowd in the palms of their hands, and IRON MAIDEN and Bruce Dickinson proved beyond a shadow of a doubt why they are the greatest metal band on earth right now, and quite possibly, the classiest, too.

"The Osbournes are drunk with power. Shame on them, and shame on ANY of the bands that participated in the terrorizing and intimidation. It was disgusting display, that NO BAND should have had to endure, but especially a legend like IRON MAIDEN. That fact that it happened in front of 40,000+ people, at a Clear Channel-sponsored event, while Hyundai Pavilion Security turned a blind eye and let the Osbourne camp pelt one of the main headlining bands with eggs, beer, and spit, was simply inexcusable.

"I will proudly be attending next year's MAIDEN fest, and as much as I hate to say it, I can't bring myself to spend another dime on the Osbournes.

"Ozzfest, hang your head in shame."

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23.08.2005 16:29
#17 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

die fanreaktionen waren ja erfreulich..also sorry an die amerikanischen fans ^^ aber was für schweine die osbournes doch sind....
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23.08.2005 22:36
#18 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

nach dem ich die obigen fakten gelesen habe bin ich echt schockiert
über das was da vorgefallen ist.
jedoch bin ich total froh darüber wie sich maiden verhalten haben.
das zeugt von klasse und niveau, die gewisse osbournes noch nie
hatten.
einfach lächerlich dieser vorfall.
das einzige was mich daran ein wenig erfreut ist die tatsache,
dass sich die "saboteure" dabei offensichtlich ein eigentor geleistet
haben.
aber trotzdem, so etwas ist gar nicht gut für das ego einer bedeutenden
band wie maiden...gar nicht gut.

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24.08.2005 07:56
#19 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

@quhu: Vielleicht ne tolle Sache mit dem Petitionslink, nur ich werde kein Wort an die Osbournes lenken, da ist jedes Wort zuviel.

Maiden haben ihre Tour in den Staaten nun hinter sich gebracht und ich sage nur GOTT SEI DANK!

(Berichtigung in eigener Sache: Es war natürlich die Frau von Ozzy und nicht die Tochter, obwohl ich der das auch zugetraut hätte)
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24.08.2005 08:25
#20 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Nachtrag: Rod Smallwood hat sich zu diesem Vorfall nun offiziell auf der Maidenhomepage geäußert:

Maiden are currently returning from America and preparing for UK festivals this weekend and don't wish to waste time giving Sharon Osbourne's statement the dignity of a reply. Considering the disgraceful nature of the events that occurred they feel it's a pretty dismal effort at self justification and they don't think Metal fans are at all gullible and that they will easily see through it. They want no more to do with this sorry incident and are very much looking forward to headlining Reading and Leeds Festivals this weekend.

I would however like to add my own comment on this.

In 30 years in this business and after attending hundreds of gigs l have never seen anything anywhere near as disgusting and unprofessional as what went on that night. I was standing on our sound desk out front as usual but ran to the stage as soon as the hail of missiles began and from then on watched from the front of the stage right next to Bruce's walkway. The scale, viciousness and concentration of the throwing made it obvious that this was a premeditated and co-ordinated attack. Assaulting musicians while performing by throwing bottle tops, lighters and eggs at them from just a few yards away is vile, dangerous, criminal and cowardly. It is incredible that Ozzfest security apparently did nothing about it - aren't they there to protect the bands too? Especially when the band is concentrating on a performance in front of 45,000 people and the missiles are coming out of the glare of the spotlights. And to spit at a band on stage is unforgivable.

Iron Maiden, like all the bands on Ozzfest, had to sign quite onerous legal documents part of which was promising not to throw anything into the audience, even wristbands!!! Ironic isn't it.

It is well documented on the web who was responsible for planning and participating in this attack and for musicians to join in this assault on other musicians is a shocking disgrace akin to treachery. You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves.

We know who authorised the making of the 'ozzy - ozzy' chant tape the day before and how it was played secretly through the PA at the very beginning and end of our set.

We also know who continually turned off the power interrupting our set at crucial moments. It is a good thing that the power was turned back on before there was a riot as you could sense on stage a lot of the huge audience were getting totally pissed off at this continual onslaught on the band.

The great majority of the Ozzfest crew throughout the tour were terrific and we thank them. Those who participated or stood idly by and watched as this all went down should also be ashamed of themselves and l would certainly hope they never come near a tour with which we are involved.

There is little point in my commenting on the chap with the flag or their trying to hold up Eddie or Sharon's speech as the audience made their feelings very clear on each occasion.

And in the end what was all this about?? If l had any sort of problem or misunderstanding with a band working on a tour we were involved in l would go and talk to them or their manager - not wait until the end of a tour and assault and ambush them. Or was that really it?

I find it staggering that this ambush would take place in front of any audience, let alone in San Bernardino, the biggest audience of the tour. Didn't that audience merit any consideration? They pay an awful lot to be there in terms of prices for tickets, parking, food, beer etc. Surely if they spend this sort of money they deserve to watch the bands they paid to see be able to put in a full unhindered performance. Free of danger and intimidation. If I had paid I would ask for my money back!

And this audience really were outstanding, giving the band incredible support and many voting with their feet in disgust after the set and the speech, which to many was the final insult.

I have to say l was immensely proud of Maiden who stood up to it all and showed great courage and just got better and better through the adversity. Their heads never dropped, instead they went on the offensive. It was a truly memorable moment when Bruce went to the very front of the stage during Trooper - something which he never normally does as he is usually on the ramps - waving the flag whilst avoiding the hail of missiles and yelling 'This is a fucking British flag, and these colours don't fucking run!'. The imperturbable attitude and ability of the band shone through and in the end made this a truly remarkable rock and roll event, even if for all the wrong reasons.

We will have no more to say on this matter except that l do think the band deserve an apology from a number of people, and you know who you are.

ROD SMALLWOOD
MANAGER, IRON MAIDEN
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24.08.2005 12:56
#21 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

unfassbar...
aber lasst uns nach vorn blicken!denn dies macht maiden nur stärker!wir - die fans - stehn hundertprozentig hinter ihnen!
ende!

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24.08.2005 13:33
#22 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

hab jetzt mal das statement auf der ozzfest seite durchgelesen...

bruce scheint ja schon auch auf kleine zicke gemacht zu haben...dennoch dann bespricht man das und die sache wird wie normales volk beigelegt...

ulkig fand ich aber den kommentar das es respektlos sei den union jack zu schwingen... hallo das machen maiden seid es den song the trooper gitb in jedem land der erde und auf einmal sits respektlos...jo ne is klar...



So wie früher wird`s nie mehr,verstummt sind alle Schrameln,eut`regiert der Nasenbär, Dies`Land, es muss vergammeln! Drum singen heut`noch alle vereint am Opernballe:
Er lebe Hoch! Wo ist der Kaiser? Er lebe Hoch! Wir brauchen ein Idol! Er lebe Hoch! Wo ist der Kaiser? Dieses Land braucht Ihn und keinen Rock & Roll!

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24.08.2005 15:08
#23 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

was bruce gesagt hat ist ok und richtig...das ist kein grund und darf in keinster weise als entschuldigung gelten!!!!
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24.08.2005 15:57
#24 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

Freie Meinungsäußerung und so. Man muß schon unbequem und bei manchen unbeliebt sein dürfen ohne gleich mit derartigen Konsequenzen rechnen zu müssen...

Naja, was bleibt dazu noch zu sagen, außer danke, Rod, für das sachliche und angemessene Statement.

Up the Irons!


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24.08.2005 16:36
#25 RE:Sharon Osbourne, Ozzfest & Maiden Thread geschlossen

ich beziehe mich ja nicht auf die aussagen auf dem gig selber sondern nur die aussagen die er "anscheinend" während der tour selbst über die osbournes geäußert hat...



So wie früher wird`s nie mehr,verstummt sind alle Schrameln,eut`regiert der Nasenbär, Dies`Land, es muss vergammeln! Drum singen heut`noch alle vereint am Opernballe:
Er lebe Hoch! Wo ist der Kaiser? Er lebe Hoch! Wir brauchen ein Idol! Er lebe Hoch! Wo ist der Kaiser? Dieses Land braucht Ihn und keinen Rock & Roll!

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